For the return of Coffee & Conversations, CSOFT Marketing's Marko and Loren join CSOFT CEO Ms. Shunee Yee for a discussion that takes us to the Himalayas and back with American fitness entrepreneur, UFC World Champion coach, and friend of CSOFT, Ruben Payan Jr . In this episode, Mr. Payan shares his experiences climbing the world’s tallest mountains and returning to live in the U.S. after leading the fitness industry in China to new heights, with insights for overcoming hardship when you figuratively - and literally - cannot see the path forward.

Coffee & Conversations is an original podcast series from CSOFT Health Sciences & CSOFT International, which Shunee Yee leads as executive producer.